Summing up whats going on with the USA.

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Permalink Reply by Page Gaddis on November 18, 2009 at 6:10pm

It is one of those things no one will ever truly know unless they were there. Don't sell the Chinese short, they are much smarter than you give them credit. The American debt is so large it is quite difficult to comprehend.

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Permalink Reply by Wanda on November 18, 2009 at 2:23pm

What our elected officials have done for us:

Created a welfare state that in turn created fatherless homes, gangs in the streets, massive drug addictions, physically and sexually abused children at unprecedented levels, loss of work ethic and invasion of illegals.

Created dependence on foreign oil by failure to use our own God-given natural resources, pretending that the environment and insects are more important than humans.

Passed legislation that has destroyed our jobs and economic prosperity in America while selling our very national soul to foreign countries who now own us.

Brought the enemy to our soil by the hundreds of thousands while sending our troops overseas to fight them.

Demoralized our nation by demeaning us throughout the world, after we have saved people all over the world throughout our history.

Now elected officials are destroying our Constitution and our Christian history through appointments of godless judges, Czars and other such people in positions of very high authority.

Please feel free to add your own thoughts as to what our elected officials have done for us. Then let us UNITE and WORK with all our MIGHT to bring Godly and wise individuals back into positions of authority in the United States.

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Permalink Reply by Larry & Stacy Braid on November 18, 2009 at 2:47pm

This is a post I copied and pasted here. It seems like a good place for this. What if China already came calling for its debt, due to this gold scandal, and that is what happened back in Sept. 2008 to start this economic disaster we are in. Maybe they are holding us hostage over this greedy scam our country played on the world. Makes me wonder if this is what was told to the House back on March 13, 2008 when they held their secret meeting that left them all speechless and furious over what they where told. If you have forgotten about that, look it up.

Gold Finger - A New Take On Operation Grand Slam With A Tungsten Twist"
By Rob Kirby


I've already reported on irregular physical gold settlements which occurred in London, England back in the first week of October, 2009. Specifically, these settlements involved the intermediation of at least one Central Bank [The Bank of England] to resolve allocated settlements on behalf of J.P. Morgan and Deutsche Bank - who DID NOT have the gold bullion that they had sold short and were contracted to deliver. At the same time I reported on two other unusual occurrences:

1] - irregularities in the publication of the gold ETF - GLD's bar list from Sept. 25 - Oct.14 where the length of the bar list went from 1,381 pages to under 200 pages and then back up to 800 or so pages.

2] - reports of 400 oz. "good delivery" bricks of gold found gutted and filled with tungsten within the confines of LBMA approved vaults in Hong Kong.

Why Tungsten?

Quote:
If anyone were contemplating creating "fake" gold bars, tungsten [at roughly $10 per pound] would be the metal of choice since it has the exact same density as gold making a fake bar salted with tungsten indistinguishable from a solid gold bar by simply weighing it.

Unfortunately, there are now more sordid details to report.

When the news of tungsten "salted" gold bars in Hong Kong first surfaced, many people who I am acquainted with automatically assumed that these bars were manufactured in China - because China is generally viewed as "the knock-off capital of the world".

Here's what I now understand really happened:

The amount of "salted tungsten" gold bars in question was allegedly between 5,600 and 5,700 - 400 oz - good delivery bars [roughly 60 metric tonnes].

This was apparently all highly orchestrated by an extremely well financed criminal operation.

Within mere hours of this scam being identified - Chinese officials had many of the perpetrators in custody.

And here's what the Chinese allegedly uncovered:

Roughly 15 years ago - during the Clinton Administration [think Robert Rubin, Sir Alan Greenspan and Lawrence Summers] - between 1.3 and 1.5 million 400 oz tungsten blanks were allegedly manufactured by a very high-end, sophisticated refiner in the USA [more than 16 Thousand metric tonnes]. Subsequently, 640,000 of these tungsten blanks received their gold plating and WERE shipped to Ft. Knox and remain there to this day. I know folks who have copies of the original shipping docs with dates and exact weights of "tungsten" bars shipped to Ft. Knox.

The balance of this 1.3 million - 1.5 million 400 oz tungsten cache was also plated and then allegedly "sold" into the international market.

Apparently, the global market is literally "stuffed full of 400 oz salted bars".

Makes one wonder if the Indians were smart enough to assay their 200 tonne haul from the IMF?

A Slow Motion Train Wreck, Years in the Making

An obscure news item originally published in the N.Y. Post [written by Jennifer Anderson] in late Jan. 04 has always 'stuck in my craw':

DA investigating NYMEX executive - Manhattan, New York, district attorney's office, Stuart Smith - Melting Pot - Brief Article - Feb. 2, 2004

A top executive at the New York Mercantile Exchange is being investigated by the Manhattan district attorney. Sources close to the exchange said that Stuart Smith, senior vice president of operations at the exchange, was served with a search warrant by the district attorney's office last week. Details of the investigation have not been disclosed, but a NYMEX spokeswoman said it was unrelated to any of the exchange's markets. She declined to comment further other than to say that charges had not been brought. A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney's office also declined comment.

The offices of the Senior Vice President of Operations - NYMEX - is exactly where you would go to find the records [serial number and smelter of origin] for EVERY GOLD BAR ever PHYSICALLY settled on the exchange. They are required to keep these records. These precise records would show the lineage of all the physical gold settled on the exchange and hence "prove" that the amount of gold in question could not have possibly come from the U.S. mining operations - because the amounts in question coming from U.S. smelters would undoubtedly be vastly bigger than domestic mine production.

We never have found out what happened to poor ole Stuart Smith - after his offices were "raided" - he took administrative leave from the NYMEX and he has never been heard from since. Amazingly [or perhaps not], there never was any follow up on in the media on the original story as well as ZERO developments ever stemming from D.A. Morgenthau's office who executed the search warrant.

Are we to believe that NYMEX offices were raided, the Sr. V.P. of operations then takes leave - all for nothing?

These revelations should provide a "new filter" through which Rothschild exiting the gold market back in 2004 begins to make a little more sense:

"LONDON, April 14, 2004 (Reuters) - NM Rothschild & Sons Ltd., the London-based unit of investment bank Rothschild [ROT.UL], will withdraw from trading commodities, including gold, in London as it reviews its operations, it said on Wednesday."

Interestingly, GATA's Bill Murphy speculated about this back in 2004;

"Why is Rothschild leaving the gold business at this time my colleagues and I conjectured today? Just a guess on my part, but suspect:"

*SOMETHING IS AMISS. THEY KNOW A BIG GOLD SCANDAL IS COMING AND THEY WANT NO PART OF IT. ."

"ROTHSCHILD WANTS OUT BEFORE THE PROVERBIAL "S" HITS THE FAN." BILL MURPHY, LEMETROPOLE, 4-18-2004

Coincidentally [or perhaps, not?], GLD Began Trading 11/12/2004

In light of what has occurred - regarding the Gold ETF, GLD - after reviewing their prospectus yet again, it becomes pretty clear that GLD was established to purposefully deflect investment dollars away from legitimate gold pursuits and to create a stealth, cesspool / catch-all, slush-fund and a likely destination for many of these "salted tungsten bars" where they would never see the light of day - hidden behind the following legalese "shield" from the law:

Excerpt from the GLD prospectus on page 11:

Gold bars allocated to the Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket may not meet the London Good Delivery Standards and, if a Basket is issued against such gold, the Trust may suffer a loss. Neither the Trustee nor the Custodian independently confirms the fineness of the gold bars allocated to the Trust in connection with the creation of a Basket. The gold bars allocated to the Trust by the Custodian may be different from the reported fineness or weight required by the LBMA's standards for gold bars delivered in settlement of a gold trade, or the London Good Delivery Standards, the standards required by the Trust. If the Trustee nevertheless issues a Basket against such gold, and if the Custodian fails to satisfy its obligation to credit the Trust the amount of any deficiency, the Trust may suffer a loss.

The Fed Has Already Been Caught Lying

Liberty Coin's Patrick Heller recently wrote,

Earlier this year, the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee (GATA), filed a second Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the Federal Reserve System for documents from 1990 to date having to do with gold swaps, gold swapped, or proposed gold swaps.

On Aug. 5, The Federal Reserve responded to this FOIA request by adding two more documents to those disclosed to GATA in April 2008 from the earlier FOIA request. These documents totaled 173 pages, many parts of which were redacted (covered up to omit sections of text). The Fed's response also noted that there were 137 pages of documents not disclosed that were alleged to be exempt from disclosure.

GATA appealed this determination on Aug. 20. The appeal asked for more information to substantiate the legitimacy of the claimed exemptions from disclosure and an explanation on why some documents, such as one posted on the Federal Reserve Web site that discusses gold swaps, were not included in the Aug. 5 document release.

In a Sept. 17, 2009, letter on Federal Reserve System letterhead, Federal Reserve governor Kevin M. Warsh completely denied GATA's appeal. The entire text of this letter can be examined at http://www.gata.org/files/GATAFedRes...09-17-2009.pdf.

The first paragraph on the third page is the most revealing. Warsh wrote, "In connection with your appeal, I have confirmed that the information withheld under exemption 4 consists of confidential commercial or financial information relating to the operations of the Federal Reserve Banks that was obtained within the meaning of exemption 4. This includes information relating to swap arrangements with foreign banks on behalf of the Federal Reserve System and is not the type of information that is customarily disclosed to the public. This information was properly withheld from you."

This paragraph will likely be one of the most important news stories of the year.

Though not stated in plain English, this paragraph is an admission that the Fed has in the past and may now be engaged in trading gold swaps. Warsh's letter contradicts previous Fed statements to GATA denying that it ever engaged in gold swaps during the time period between Jan. 1, 1990 and the present.

[Perhaps most importantly], this was GATA's second FOIA request to the Federal Reserve on the issue of gold swaps. The 173 pages of documents received for the 2009 FOIA request all pre-dated the 2007 FOIA request, which means they should have been released in the response to the earlier FOIA request. This establishes a likelihood that the Federal Reserve has failed to adequately search or disclose relevant documents. Further, the Fed response admitted that it had copies of relevant records that originally appeared on the Treasury Department Web site, but failed to include them in its response.

Now that Federal Reserve governor Warsh has admitted that the Fed has lied in the past about the Fed's involvement with gold. It should now be very clear to everyone why the Fed is lying and the true nature of what they are hiding / withholding.

On Doing God's Work

An important footnote to consider is the inter-twined-ness of the U.S. Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury [can anyone really tell them apart?] as well as this duopoly's two principal agents - J.P. Morgan-Chase and Goldman Sachs. When one truly grasps the nature of these highly conflicted relationships it gives a fuller meaning to words recently uttered by Goldman head, Lloyd Blankfein, who claimed,

"I'm doing god's work"

Does this really mean that Mr. Blankfein believes that the Federal Reserve is god? You can judge for yourself. While the Fed prints money like no one else could - except god almighty himself [or Gideon Gono, perhaps?] - I really doubt that was the intent back in 1864, when the U.S. adopted "In God We Trust" as their official motto.

And that's my two cents worth for today.

Got [real] physical gold yet?

Rob Kirby

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Permalink Reply by Larry & Stacy Braid on November 18, 2009 at 3:03pm

Didn't Hillary offer that up to them a while back. I had heard that she offered them eminent domain to get them to finance our last stimulus package. I"ll look it up.

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Permalink Reply by Harold Shearer on November 18, 2009 at 8:09pm

Very good read Page. I just do not know about the Chinese and what they plan. On one hand there economy depends on us. If are buying of products are down by 20 persent then the have a loss of 20 percent in thier income. So if our economy gets worse then it should be the same for them. So what is going to be used for collateral. I think I want my country back is on to something, imminent domain or are natural resourses. That is what I am affraid of. If we go down it will take them with us and there will be alot of ticked off Chinese and they will want what is coming to them one way or the other.

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